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284 deviants said :la: (Please... um- :la: )
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258 deviants said Love it! :dalove: (Please explain)
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240 deviants said Hate it! :dead: (Please explain)

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:iconcomanderluusa:
ComanderLUUSA Featured By Owner May 31, 2010  Hobbyist Interface Designer
:la:
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:iconthesunofmidnight:
TheSunOfMidnight Featured By Owner May 28, 2010
"love it"
'cause

+for some things like adding favs it works better
+it's faster
+when you look a lot of deviations, it's easier to see them all in the small bar
+it's good to have the picture on the top of the page
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:iconrika195:
rika195 Featured By Owner May 21, 2010
Pretty much everything that I liked is now gone, and everything else now looks like crap. But thats just my personal opinion. It'll probably take me months to figure out how to view deviations I'm watching without having to do a massive clicking from one place to the next journey. Ugh. And the layout is kind of ugly.

Again, that's just me. And knowing me, I'll probably only hate it while I'm trying to figure it out. Then I'll probably like it.
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:iconkeyzpoof:
keyzpoof Featured By Owner May 21, 2010  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Don't like the browse feature. It's glitchy, slow, and doesn't look good with tall images. Other than that, well done!
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:iconmonkeyqueeen:
MonkeyQueeen Featured By Owner May 20, 2010   Photographer
I love it :) niot much changed but The sliding thru deviations to deviation is convinient!
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:iconblackinuyaju:
blackinuyaju Featured By Owner May 20, 2010
I can't give too much of an opinion because I haven't really been able to properly explore since it keeps making my browser yell NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO and die on me
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:iconblackinuyaju:
blackinuyaju Featured By Owner May 20, 2010
although one thing I did notice is that the DevWatch and messages link at the top have been merged. I do not like that.
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:iconblackinuyaju:
blackinuyaju Featured By Owner May 20, 2010
*DevWatch Deviations

One thing I DO like is that you don't have to scroll all the way to the bottom to leave a comment. =)
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:iconanhnhan:
AnhNhan Featured By Owner May 20, 2010  Hobbyist Digital Artist
war der einzige grund, weshalb ich überhaupt premium haben wollt :P
auf nem super tollem rechner mit nem zu großem bildschirm im vollbildmodus ist es einfach toll, nur des comeback des autoresizing stört mich...
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:iconiamjuice:
iamjuice Featured By Owner May 19, 2010  Student
the old layout was good. now when i go to see a piece of art, it is obstructed by an ad at the top
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:iconjon-rista:
jon-rista Featured By Owner May 19, 2010  Hobbyist Photographer
To re-cap my rant from the official v7 announcement:

I really think v7 was premature. It has some nice things, but the bulk of it is just problematic. I've been using v7 beta on and off for a while now, and I lament the permanent loss of v6. At least during the beta, I could escape back to the previous version if I got too annoyed. Now, I'm just stuck with all the things I hated about the new version. Here are some of the serious problems that I've been complaining about for many, many weeks:

1) Automatic resizing with no option to always show REAL full view.
PROBLEM: This is a DISASTER of epic proportions. You have nearly completely taken away my ability to control what I see and at what size. The inability to turn on an option to automatically and always see the REAL, FULLY SIZED full view is my biggest pet peeve. Not only can I not see full view by default...but you RARELY EVER GIVE ME A REAL FULL VIEW!!!! Your damn resizing algorithm still kicks in when I choose full view if...for whatever ungodly reason...it decides that the image is too big according to some useless and worthless mathematical algorithm.
FIX: Give us back a REAL AUTOMATIC FULL VIEW!!! Stop screwing with what we see, and let us CHOOSE of our own will!

2) Hidden artist comments.
PROBLEM: The fact that you chose to hide part of the artist comments is REDICULOUS. I can not even find the proper terms to explain how ludicrously stupid that idea was. It has done NOTHING but manufacture hassle. A lot of artists, including myself, put clickable content in artist comments. Now, not only do I have to click to see full view every time I view anything...I ALSO have to click to view the full artist comments...THEN CLICK AGAIN to navigate to anything they have linked. That is amazingly shitty, and a massive pain in the ass. The concept of UI is decently understood by DA, but the concept of UI USABILITY IS TOTALLY LOST. I think v7 has reached the pinnacle of Web 2.0 AJAXified UNusability. Hiding artist comments is probably your greatest usability blunder EVER.
FIX: ALWAYS show ALL artist comment content! Don't do anything fancy or flashy...just show the damn thing!!

3) Lackluster search capabilities in comparison to v6.
PROBLEM: The previous version had search capabilities pretty much everywhere (or perpahse it DID have it everywhere...I can't really remember, because if I needed to search, I did...I never had to think about it!) The new v7 has AMAZINGLY SPOTTY search. Deviation pages are completely lacking it. Profile pages are completely lacking it. DeviantWear is completely lacking it. Prints shop...does wierd things like put 'catpath:spaceart' in the search bar, making it impossible to search for something ONLY within the 'Space Art' category...any search searches all prints everywhere. SHITTY. SHODDY. LACKLUSTER.
FIX: Put a search box EVERYWHERE, on EVERY page, and allow context-sensitive search so we can narrow down content...not find 90% irrelevent results when we are trying to find something specific!

4) Image downloads work VERY sporradically.
PROBLEM: I do not really understand exactly what was done with the image download functionality in v7. When viewing a deviation, there are one of three possible outcomes. First, and quite frequently...the grayish-green "shadow" background appears that normally shows up behind the actual deviation...but the deviation never downloads. This is not a connection problem. I have the fastest internet money can buy from Comcast in my area...it clocks in at some 35-60 megabits. Alternatively, the image that downloads is very blurry and/or pixellated. Looks like a progressive JPEG image that downloaded half way. I get this on nearly half of the deviations I view. Getting the deviation to fully download requires numerous page refreshes, and if that doesn't work, either give up...or if you REALLY want to see something...wait....for a long time....eventually the image might show up in full clarity. (But remember, even after the image has finally downloaded, because of Problem #1, I STILL HAVE TO CLICK THE FUCKING THING TO VIEW FULL SIZE...assuming that the DA autoresize algorithm decides to let me...which more frequently than not still decides that the image is too big for my monstrous 30" Apple CinemaDisplay...and still scales it down!) Finally, the last download problem might be a mix of the blurry version of the image...and the full clarity image. Sometimes the image stops downloading half-way through, and just stops. I'm a huge Opera fan, and opera does some amazing image caching that greatly speeds up my browsing and navigation. I've had to disable that quite frequently to fix the problem of a half-downloaded deviation that gets stuck in my cache. REALLY CRAPPY. Shitty work DA.
FIX: Just let the friggin images download normally, like every other freaking site on the internet. Stop screwing around with hyper-fringe AJAX fancy shit, and let us VIEW SOME FRACKING ART!!

5) Navigating around the message center and between galleries and deviations can be glitchy and inconsistent.
PROBLEM: It appears that during the unstoppable juggernaught march towards a hyper-AJAXed UI, usability once again was flushed down the toilet. The new super-fancy super-shmancy radically animated transitions between a thumbnail in a gallery or stack to the actual deviation is very sketchy in the way it updates the browser history. Best I can tell, the history is only updated after at least one (but sometimes more) deviation has been viewed in a gallery/stack. The first one, and sometimes subsequent deviations, do not dynamically update the history. So, pressing the back button skips back an extra page or two. This creates a MASSIVE hassle when trying to navigate around a gallery. I like to click on something, then click back to see the whole gallery, and find the next thing of interest. I rarely just linearly browse through every item in a gallery. Since pressing the back button returns to the page that I viewed BEFORE the gallery, I have to make twice as many clicks, and usually ten times as much scrolling, to effectively cherry pick and view the deviations in a gallery or stack that I am interested in. This is PHENOMENALLY ANNOYING. Welcome to ANOTHER USABILITY BLUNDER!
FIX: Either make sure you dynamically track EVERY SINGLE FRIGGIN NAVIGATION CLICK in the browser history, or GET RID OF THIS INANE NEW METHOD OF NAVIGATION!!! As is...IT SUCKS!!


I mentioned most of these issues while I was a beta tester. Many of them I mentioned over and over in the v7 Beta forums. I never ONCE got a reply from any DA staff about ANY ONE of these issues. The first three were also noted by hundreds of other DA v7 Beta testers, repeatedly, for months. It is ASTONISHING to me that v7 has already been released, and these issues still exist, and are just as LOATHED by the greater DA community as they were by beta testers. I think it should be made clear to DA staff that this has sent a very clear message to your members. You know what that message is: WE DON'T GIVE A SHIT WHAT YOU THINK, MEMBERS!


Bravo. Welcome to v7 hell.


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:iconskreenname:
skreenname Featured By Owner May 19, 2010  Hobbyist Photographer
I don't like the new message center, the new deviation page is no where near as good as the old one, and me no likey change.
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:iconsintk:
SintK Featured By Owner May 19, 2010  Student Artist
Its super quick and easy to navigate.
It took me to much time to check my deviantwatch. + all the deviations.
Now its done in 1 minute.
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:iconumbras-et-lumina:
umbras-et-lumina Featured By Owner May 19, 2010
When submitting literature, the box where the writing is has been reduced in size causing line breaks to change. (Not good, especially for poets, I think).
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:iconjellybeenmacsmeg:
jellybeenmacsmeg Featured By Owner May 19, 2010
it's got ups and it's got downs.
sadly i still can't access DA properly on my PS3
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DamnedHonesty Featured By Owner May 19, 2010
By its look alone, I miss the look of the top bar that contained messages, search bar, and chat, shop, etc. As others mentioned, browsing is less efficient it seems, although I have no doubt that some things will change as they always do when the new versions are first released.

I think that I like how the images are displayed now and how there is an option of moving to the next image while being able to also view it. The system is a bit slow however.

Overall, I (and likely for many others) usually dislike the new versions when they first are released, but by next year, when version 8 comes out, everyone will be up in arms again because they have grown used to, and like, THIS version.
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:iconkooborisapphire:
KooboriSapphire Featured By Owner May 19, 2010  Student General Artist
I hate it. It's all now time consuming, & then there's no search bar anymore until I go to the front page. That sucks ass! It looks nice, but it's lame. I only liked the "Don't forget to comment" thing.
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:icon1lonlyant:
1lonlyant Featured By Owner May 19, 2010  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
It actually rather nice.
Change is good and the new layout is interesting. Plus the same thing over and over again gets a little dull after a while (in my opinion. I change my desktop ever few weeks). Plus it's easier to browse through the art. :dummy:
But maybe, just a thought, There could be an option about what kind of layout to choose? I like it but I can say.... Many others don't...
._.;;;
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:iconjasonroll:
JasonRoll Featured By Owner May 19, 2010  Professional Digital Artist
Made something familiar and simple more complicated
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:icontahu18:
TAHU18 Featured By Owner May 19, 2010
I'm annoyed by it because now I haven't gotten used to it yet. Also, I can't find the search.
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:iconaine-san:
Aine-san Featured By Owner May 19, 2010  Student Digital Artist
it's more comfortable than previous ver
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:iconjussta:
jussta Featured By Owner May 19, 2010  Professional Digital Artist
I'm a bit unsure.... there are some features I like [small top menu] and some that I don't [the category shown under the art/ no number of the deviations in your message centre shown], but I'll get used to it
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:iconlamnay:
lamnay Featured By Owner May 19, 2010
I don't like it that much but that's just because it's new.

The lack of a Search bar is my only real problem.
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:iconmasterwow:
Masterwow Featured By Owner May 19, 2010  Hobbyist Photographer
Theres only one thing I hate, and this is the shadow of the deviation, normally, the shadow goes away if I click for fullview, but now?
The rest looks very cool but the showing of the devation is bad
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:iconkeydan:
Keydan Featured By Owner May 19, 2010
Kinda neutral... i mena it's all decorative mostly...
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:iconsp33dd3mon:
sp33dd3mon Featured By Owner May 19, 2010  Hobbyist General Artist
it's a nice change now da looks more professional
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:iconphoenixleo:
phoenixleo Featured By Owner May 19, 2010
:dalove:
the bugs will be taken care of soon!
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:iconguadianangel:
GuadianAngel Featured By Owner May 19, 2010
i reckon it looks pretty nice and fresh, not much of a change but it give a new relaxed feeling
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:iconragdoll82:
Ragdoll82 Featured By Owner May 19, 2010
I'm sure their intentions were good, but so far it's not functioning well for me.
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:iconunderworld666chaos:
Underworld666Chaos Featured By Owner May 19, 2010  Hobbyist General Artist
i don't mind it to took a bit to get use to but now i like it :D
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:iconvenomkold822:
venomkold822 Featured By Owner May 19, 2010
as a beta tester, i have had this version for a while. at first i was like everyone, but came to liking it a lot. it makes things so much easier to view, sure it takes a while to load the high res images, but you cant blame that on da. There are still bugs that need to be fixed, like the friends bar not loading all the time, but that isnt a big deal. Also being able to use the arrow keys to scroll through the deviations is amazing. no more having to click out of a deviation to view the next one. so much simpler, and a lot less open unused space.
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TidalStorm Featured By Owner May 19, 2010
I don't normally comment on updates and such but I will for this.

It's complete and utter rubbish in my opinion. I don't see any benefit from the new top bar thing, it just looks like facebook's bar, except even there you can log in without opening a drop down menu.

The major (and I can't really see any others based on the official article) update is I have saved a "whopping" amount of space, enhancing art viewing. Yes I can see an extra row of thumbs when searching, but neither do I can about being able to do that.

However, quite in contradiction to the intention of "more at once", when viewing a piece, I see a bigger than a thumbnail, but not that big image. Doesn't serve either purpose well. Also why do things now only display at my screen width? I thought this argument came and went a month ago. This is stupidity given that I have a piece in my gallery, and I was quite aware of both its width, and my screen res, yet it is now smaller.

Before, when going on a deviation, I could see the thumb, the comment, views and favourites and all the rest on the same screen, and if I wanted to see just the pic in full (as in properly full) I could click it. Neither of those things happen now.

For me images are loading a lot slower as well.
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TidalStorm Featured By Owner May 19, 2010
Should say "care" not "can"

On that note, why can't something as simple as an edit button exist instead of backwards features, even just a temporary 5 min edit to avoid people changing their posts entirely.
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:iconchoast:
Choast Featured By Owner May 19, 2010
Meine Erklärung ^^:
Komme ganz gut mit zurecht und freu mich eh über Änderungen ^^ neuer Stoff zum Testen ;)!
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:iconbishopbluewaters:
bishopBlueWaters Featured By Owner May 19, 2010
For those who want to know you can stick the arrow menu from the arrow next to the dA logo at the top... but yeah no search is frightening...
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:iconbishopbluewaters:
bishopBlueWaters Featured By Owner May 19, 2010
it makes a vertical nav right underneath it...
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:iconfeiti:
Feiti Featured By Owner May 19, 2010  Hobbyist Photographer
Don't like at all. not easier ! browser and links (gallery, profile, etc) are not good at all !
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:iconjuhitsome:
juhitsome Featured By Owner May 19, 2010
harder to view devinations
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:iconerkenbrant:
erkenbrant Featured By Owner May 19, 2010
Everything's sleek and easy -- like a user-friendly phone. Navigation is easy (especially to the message centre -- that's an awesome job).

One thing bothers me though . . . teh "Don't forget to comment" popup thingy after I fave . . .
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:iconchukkz:
Chukkz Featured By Owner May 19, 2010  Student Digital Artist
I like the general thing. Especially the navigation is much easier now, I used to mess up and get confused navigating the site, now its a lot easier.

There are small things that need to be overthought though. Like for example that you have to choose male or female now. There might be reasons for you not to say... optional removal of the feature would do the trick.

Another thing that bugs me a little is the fact that while it runs smooth for me I fear that the site becomes unusable for people with bad hardware and or (more important) slow internet. In Southafrica for example a lot of folks have a slow connection and a friend of mine already was concerned when I told her about the upcoming V7 update, as the site became slower and slower for her with time over the last few months. There should be an alternative Lightweight version for those folks.
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:iconnewyam:
newyam Featured By Owner May 19, 2010
I think its quite good :#1:
but I have mixed feelings about the grouped messages and deviations, because I always could look how many new deviations I got and how many new messages.
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Kaiohan Featured By Owner May 19, 2010  Student Photographer
now, if i try to delete a deviation in my deviantwatch deviation messages, a little grey window comes up there (to show me, i deleted one?), and therefore, the fucking deviations move a bit down.. so i can't just click & look, i have to fucking move my mouse all the time - WHAT THE FUCK IS THAT! that sucks. i got to look through 200-500 deviations every fucking day, was okay the way before, but not with that stupid fucking piece of grey s***
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:iconspectraljump:
Spectraljump Featured By Owner May 19, 2010
Over the years they went from a complex and humble environment to a more and more shiny and generic interface with less and less depth.

Also, there are quite a few big issues regarding this particular update [link]
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:iconstefanieodendahl:
StefanieOdendahl Featured By Owner May 19, 2010  Professional Digital Artist
i like it, because there is more space for the art and in my opinion it's faster than before. the new browsing funktion is just great! and the pictures are immetiatly full size - great! i like, that the artists name and the category is under the deviation now.

i don't like, that the artists comments under the picture is cut off - there's enough space beneath the art, so i think, that's a superfluous click many users will not do - and don't read the comment.

otherwise - great job done!
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:iconstefanieodendahl:
StefanieOdendahl Featured By Owner May 19, 2010  Professional Digital Artist
i just tried to send some notes - in 2 of 3 tries it failed... just info
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:iconquandry247:
quandry247 Featured By Owner May 19, 2010   Digital Artist
less is MOAR and customisation is EVERYTHING so yeah - love it.
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:iconr3v4n:
R3V4N Featured By Owner May 19, 2010  Hobbyist Digital Artist
It's not perfect, and previous version was good, but I deffiniely love how the view of deviations looks like, it's a good idea, although deviation could be more on the center, than at the top.
And yea, no search is disturbing :(
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:iconaushou:
Aushou Featured By Owner May 19, 2010  Hobbyist Digital Artist
here's my reaction to V7:

It's pretty good. It declutters the page, and they were right, it does look shmexy in full screen mode. It's a little jarring, true, I'm not used to it quite yet, and it'll take me a bit to get used to it, but it's good.

No, they're not going to listen to you crying for the old version, and no, it's not because there in someone's pocket. It's because you're crying for crying's sake. Let's look at the demographic of dA, angsty quasi-artists, and real artists. It's going to blow over, you're going to like it, and when V8 comes out, you'll be crying for V7. When V6 came out, you were crying for V5. Point is, you're crying means nothing. It's a good format, it just takes getting used to.
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DerMonkey Featured By Owner May 19, 2010  Student Digital Artist
oh god, i knew that day would come, but that soon? i checked it in the beta stage and was like "you can't be serious! oO" i hoped they would wait until their birthday.... omg, now as i think about it, what are they planing for that? it's probably gonna be an even bigger disaster.... -.-
seriuosly, layout and usability when constantly down since v4.
i know it's whiny and shit, but dA _used_ to be a site where i liked to be, and explore art. then, with more people came bad art, turning dA into a myspace clone and now(in fact it started way back, but it's now that it becomes _really_ enoying) that dA is trying to jump on the marketing train, they even tightening that impression to new and outside visitors.

YOUR SHIPPMENT OF FAIL HAS ARRIVED!
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:iconventhor78:
Venthor78 Featured By Owner May 19, 2010  Hobbyist General Artist
I dunno @.@:
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